Curse

Our · Nov 17, 2007, 03:33 AM // 03:33

I've been thinking up builds all day and the only one I came across Is this one.

14 Strength
13 Swordsmanship
13 Tactics

Flail
Enraging Charge
Standing Slash
Crippling Slash {ELITE}
Knee Cutter
Riposte
Resurrection Signet
Healing Signet

I don't have EOTN for Knee Cutter.. so If someone Is kind enough to test If this build works It would be great.

I forgot to explain, Hit up Enraging Charge and then when you have enough ADR for Crippling Slash; use It. Build up enough ADR for Flail
and use Knee Cutter + Standing Slash for ADR + Energy bonus and Damage dealing. Use Riposte whenever you can. Apply Crippling Slash whenever you can.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 17, 2007, 03:50 AM // 03:50

-Swordsmanship needs to be at least 14
-From your attributes, it seems like you're using alot of major and minor runes -> you only really need to use one at max, and that's for your weapon mastery (unless you're going a major/major split with Str and Wep Mastery and want 14 Str so you don't lose your sentinels bonus from weakness.)
-Knee cutter isn't that good
-Crippling Slash is pointless without Gash, and subpar to DSlash in PvE
-Riposte sucks

Our · Nov 17, 2007, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

-Swordsmanship needs to be at least 14
-From your attributes, it seems like you're using alot of major and minor runes -> you only really need to use one at max, and that's for your weapon mastery (unless you're going a major/major split with Str and Wep Mastery and want 14 Str so you don't lose your sentinels bonus from weakness.)
-Knee cutter isn't that good
-Crippling Slash is pointless without Gash, and subpar to DSlash in PvE
-Riposte sucks

I put Crippling Slash and Flail In there for a reason.

Snow Bunny · Nov 17, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

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Originally Posted by Our

I put Crippling Slash and Flail In there for a reason.

Why?

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Our · Nov 17, 2007, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Why?

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So your enemy Is running off while you have your Flail stance activated.

Crom The Pale · Nov 17, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24

This build has more than a few flaws, but is not totaly unworkable.

I would sugest dropping all tactics and swaping [skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill] for [skill]Healing Signet[/skill] and [skill]Power Attack[/skill] for [skill]Riposte[/skill].

You should also swap out Knee cutter for [skill]Gash[/skill] and for PvP swap [skill]Flail[/skill] for [skill]Frenzy[/skill].

Use Enraging Charge off the top and give it time to recharge before hitting Frenzy in case you need to cancel it.

With 15 Str and 14 Sword and the remainder in Tactics your attacks deal much better dmg and lions cumfort will be a satisfactory heal.

Note: If power attack drains your energy more than you like swap it for counter attack.

Savio · Nov 17, 2007, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

With 15 Str and 14 Sword

14 Sword and 13 Str is better.

Qdq Swi · Nov 17, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Riposte in PvE -_-.

Shadow Own · Nov 17, 2007, 09:58 AM // 09:58

well
Cripslash + knee cutter+ gash is nice pressure combo for pvp

MisterB · Nov 17, 2007, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Knee Cutter doesn't do pressure, no.

Sister Rosette · Nov 17, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi

Riposte in PvE -_-.

Is underestimated.

Our · Nov 17, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

I really don't understand you people but I'm going to continue to experiment with this build.

Savio · Nov 17, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Our

I really don't understand you people but I'm going to continue to experiment with this build.

This is a bad Cripslash build. That's all you need to understand.

Qdq Swi · Nov 17, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Is underestimated.

No, no, I'm pretty sure it isnt. Its quite useless both PvPwise and PvEwise.. It's only good in 1v1s and maybe even farming.. other than that... tis utter cow pie.

Crom The Pale · Nov 18, 2007, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi

No, no, I'm pretty sure it isnt. Its quite useless both PvPwise and PvEwise.. It's only good in 1v1s and maybe even farming.. other than that... tis utter cow pie.

Actually Riposte + Deadly Riposte in PvE is quite effective if you understand the foes your fighting.

Many axe wars in PvE use cyclone axe or triple chop, this means just by standing near one of your casters while you attack him you will deal damage with riposte. Also vs any dervish.

Not to mention if your holding agro on a group of wars or fighting a war boss.

You would also be amazed at just how many sins and wars in PvP fail to stop attacking vs a riposte build......

iridescentfyre · Nov 18, 2007, 05:06 AM // 05:06

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

You would also be amazed at just how many sins and wars in RA/AB fail to stop attacking vs a riposte build......

Fixed

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Sister Rosette · Nov 18, 2007, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by Qdq Swi

No, no, I'm pretty sure it isnt. Its quite useless both PvPwise and PvEwise.. It's only good in 1v1s and maybe even farming.. other than that... tis utter cow pie.

Auspicious Parry+Riposte+Deadly Riposte + Support Healer = Nearly endless melee destroyer blocking~

iridescentfyre · Nov 18, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Auspicious Parry+Riposte+Deadly Riposte + Support Healer = Nearly endless melee destroyer blocking~

Yes, it works vs. melee, but the problem is what are you doing with that build that helps the group? How does it measure up against other possible builds and what they could be doing for the group? Perhaps more pertinent, what are you going to do if nothing attacks you?

Sister Rosette · Nov 18, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

Yes, it works vs. melee, but the problem is what are you doing with that build that helps the group? How does it measure up against other possible builds and what they could be doing for the group? Perhaps more pertinent, what are you going to do if nothing attacks you?

First question: Body Blocking around corners and natural barriers, and using Signet of Infection once a Deadly hits to spread Disease to the entire mob of Destroyers.

Second question: No build is sublime. I use this one because I find it useful and fun, and if it succeeds at what is needed, why waste time wondering what I could be running?

Third, and most pertinent question: See the first answer, with good team communication, I have ample time to grab the full aggro, and thus put a fleshy wall between the Destroyers and the casters.

LightningHell · Nov 18, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

Second question: No build is sublime. I use this one because I find it useful and fun, and if it succeeds at what is needed, why waste time wondering what I could be running?

Many people seek to maximize efficiency.

After all, many of us are here to convince other people (and wait to be convinced) that such is more effective than something else.